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		<title>Understanding the differences of exposition and the cross culturalization problems this can cause Palo Mayombe is key to keeping this garbage away from practitioners.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taken from an offer online&#8230;. This is in no way shape or form a solicitation to follow such garbage. &#8220;Enter your name and contact information for a chance to be able to purchase 1 of 7 sets of 10 ngangas. We have added 4 Extra Ngangas to the collection which brings it to 14 ngangas. [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taken from an offer online&#8230;. This is in no way shape or form a solicitation to follow such garbage.</p>
<h5 class="uiStreamMessage userContentWrapper" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1,&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}"><span class="userContent"><strong>&#8220;Enter your name and contact information for a chance to be able to purchase 1 of 7 sets of 10 ngangas. We have added 4 Extra Ngangas to the collection which brings it to 14 ngangas. The collection includes, Exu Maioral Nganga, Exu Rei Nganga, Maria Padilla Reina Nganga (The Quimbanda Trinity), Ozain Nganga, Mama Sholan Nganga, Zarabanda Nganga, Centelle Ndoki Nganga,</strong> Caboclos<strong> Nganga (Indian Spirits), Cabo Rondo Nganga, Siete Rayos Nganga, Kalunga Nganga, Exu Meia Noite Nganga, Lucero Vira Mundo Nganga, Aje Spirits Nganga. Each Nganga is an exact copy or duplicate of the original Ngangas at the Montenegro Temple. The collection is a valuable part of the Congo religious tradition and world history. This one of a time offer is priceless. These very historic handmade Ngangas will be ritually p</strong><span class="text_exposed_show"><strong>repared by Carlos Antonio De Bourbon Galdiano Montenegro, Rei Do Congo and are museum quality. A FREE DOCUMENTARY VIDEO SHOWING THE HISTORIC OPENING OF THE 150 YEAR OLD QUIMBANDA NGANGAS WILL BE HOSTED BY CARLOS MONTENEGRO. THIS NEVER BEFORE SEEN RARE VIDEO SEEN OUTSIDE OF THE MONTENEGRO FAMILY CIRCLE . 1 PER WINNER. The cost normally would be $45,000 to $65,000 for all of these ngangas if purchased together before the May 1, 2013 Anniversary. All ngangas come complete with Mpakas, and other necessary ritual items such as palos, dirts, sacred stones, animal bones and Human Bone from the original source. If you are chosen as one of the 7 lucky people to win this lottery you will be only allowed to purchase 1 set. Each set of 14 original spirit ngangas is $7,500. We have a lot of interest about this lottery recently so please make sure if you enter that you will be able to send the funds at the time of the notification. Funds must be sent in the form of a “cashier’s check” or “in cash”. SHIPPING CHARGES ARE EXTRA $250.00. After you are notified I will be holding 4 trainings and 2 day weekend initiation seminars in the Los Angeles area over the course of a year, but you will also have access to speak with me concerning any questions for the entire year. We will not be doing this type of rare lottery again for our ngangas because after we break them down into smaller temple size ngangas we won’t have any more extra sacred spirit material to spread around the world because we are giving them all to you. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYBODY. Enter by May 21, 2013. The lottery is scheduled to place the week of May 28, 2013. To enter into this lottery, please send us your complete legal name, address and all of your contact information to our email at THEGNOSTICBOOKCENTER@GMAIL.COM<wbr />. SUERTE</strong>&#8220;</span></span></span></h5>
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<p>Nsala Malongo people&#8230;. I addressed this article two weeks ago in a private forum we have online where I found it amusing that he is offering this type of exposition to the general public. It is hilarious because first off Carlos Montenegro co-phrased the Satanic panic in his book published in old bethpage nyc new york. <strong>Palo Mayombe the dark side of santeria&#8230;</strong>He used the lettering from the old Dark Shadows vampire series on his book with red and black lettering it was really entertaining back then and really entertaining now. Can we give him credibility to even offer or suffice such utter silliness. No! I do not see the Quimbanda priests who should be up in arms about this nonsense say a word. Unfortunately you have a lot of sheep being led to the slaughter. On <span class="uiStreamFooter"><span class="uiStreamSource" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:26,&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;N&quot;}"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/201385566573353/permalink/578457662199473/"><abbr title="Monday, May 6, 2013 at 7:36pm" data-utime="1367894164">May 6 at 7:36pm</abbr></a>&#8230; We got this post on our private group&#8230;. First if you read this is for anyone who wants to buy these things at museum quality. HAHA. ok&#8230;. Secondly the lottery are for non practitioners to purchase these artifacts I am wondering if it is a used car salesman pitch to sell quality junk. If junk can be considered quality. Honestly we need to focus on the growing problem which is cross culturalization and the hegemony that can be created by initially citing that this &#8220;Nganga Exposition&#8221; it&#8217;s just another money-making commodity for him on an ever failing road to mix and match Quimbanda and Palo Mayombe together.  Buyer beware, Consumer beware&#8230;. If you can purchase 14 ngangas at 7.500 a pop. That is 105,000 dollars in cash where you can put a healthy down payment on a new home, Car, RUV, or pay off bills then do that and do not entertain this type of crap. Funny how I laugh at these people who are reciting Gangster music, the Detrimental behavior of our family and people yet I am problematic for stating the obvious. I have to really chuckle at those bullhorn yeller over the internet airwaves&#8230;. They make me laugh and at the same time really have a sad existence I think they should pick up their mop and keep cleaning that seems to be a very honest career and always has money in your pocket. Cleaning Peoples crap is a shit job that takes a highly skilled person. But again getting back to the reality of things Montenegro unfortunately has a following and you have to give him his credit to all his detractors he has made people good, bad, or indifferent sought him out for help. Now giving out nkisi of Palo mayombe I highly doubt he knows what he is doing and for the most part we have to just inform people of this craziness. This is a disaster in the making and this by no means at all will go well. Just be intelligent and look at the realities of this article any serious religious person would laugh at Carlos Montenegro, anyone with any dignity will not entertain this nonsense and all those out there should have a bigger voice then you portray to have but you not saying anything. <strong>For instance where are the pacts that should be done for each nkisi that will be mailed to you&#8230;. Is it like instant quaker oats you add it in water and stir?  Where are the ceremonial process for each ngando that is presented to the individual as such? </strong>Let me make this clear being a responsible priest is not mixing ingredients together the fact is you have to be about it. The processes are from presentation to the nkisi you are receiving from that elder to numerical steps from 10 to 20 to 50 kinds of ritual protocols that need to be met. Now you want a mail order quimbanda wanna be Palo nganga go join the sweepstakes. You want to be a serious practitioner than learn by patience and understanding and learning all facets of Palo from a responsible elder not a puppeteer, a clown or a janitor&#8230;<br />
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		<title>If palo was the basis of spiritual enlightenment and healing why then does the popular belief system brings forth a contrary result?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>EricColon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Investigating religious terrorism and ritualistic crime by Dawn Perlmutter ( In her book it states for a person to be in palo mayombe they need to be initiated into Santeria). Santeria considered to be White magic while Palo Mayombe is Black Magic. You can see it on page 189 of her book.&#8221; &#160; Sala Malongo [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Investigating religious terrorism and ritualistic crime by Dawn Perlmutter (</strong> <strong>In her book it states for a person to be in palo mayombe they need to be initiated into Santeria). Santeria considered to be White magic while Palo Mayombe is Black Magic. You can see it on page 189 of her book.&#8221;</strong></p>
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<p>Sala Malongo everyone I have been so busy as of late with initiations in Palo and Orisha I have not had time to attend the site and also wanted to point out that thank those who are always waiting for the next interesting blog that I will post up. I wanted to take the time to address an ongoing problem we have in this religion. I call it Exposition of Gangsterism that is quite funny at best but really damages our true intentions of what we are trying to convey. What is it that I am talking about well look closely many &#8220;occult experts&#8221; are out their saying they know of our traditions and of our way of worship. Yet not one piece of evidence shows any exact connection to our practices. Yes I am saying it not one. If you see an exposition of people who are dancing up in a lot of these ritual rumba are not practicing palo mayombe. See the purpose of our drumming is for communication with the spirit not to have a dance off. Most of the drums used today as part of this growing popularity are unconsecrated drums with no ritual value other than that they sound nice. Where is the actual communication with the spirit? How can you sit there and state we are paleros yet not one person can explain why in these expositions more ritual possession is induced from  alcohol being passed around than actual ritual. Last I heard the rum is for the dead not the living.</p>
<p>Many conversations have been had between me and my colleagues and this exposition of ritual houses playing with each other existing here in the United States is just that a show. When was it ok to allow other houses to partake of ritual practices that are secret and are worth its weight in gold. Now all of a sudden we are all brothers under one banner. Tell that to a Mayombero or a person from Malongo, or an old school Briyumbero and they will all laugh in your face or maybe better yet smack it. The 1980&#8242;s began the catalyst of this deprave exposition of bravado, criminality, and utter nonsense. We have to thank the folkloric idealism that created this mish mosh of crap that we see now in Palo. After the cuban independence you have to look at American interests in the island where many crime syndicates and organizations opened up shop and started feeding into the cuban socio-political climate breeding american criminality and free enterprise. So people can not really get mad at times when these professors in colleges come against paleros and santeros because history has painted a one-sided picture really well for the United States and delegates and christian right wingers can use Palo and orisha practitioners as occultists and chicken killers and straight out criminals.</p>
<p>The Spanish-American war was viewed as the first media war ever since it got a lot of press and cartoons of America as its savior. But now almost 150 years later the &#8221; yellow kid journalism&#8221; is still used today. Meaning that media companies, publishers of books go with half-truths and not the whole story. It amazes me that Muna nso will put expositions of pictures not as a tool to teach but more as a tool to promote. Most times people looking foolish gangster posers, faces covered, Showing cleavages and all types of bad expositions to create a position of what in what? Most of the serious palero&#8217;s will not allow godkids taking pictures within a muna nso setting because it is ritual that deems the day not exposition. This is not playboy, or hustler, This is not the rap source magazine or, Maxim&#8230;. Guns weekly or any other type of media source we are a palo community. Handle yourself accordingly instead of promoting what you think you are show us who you are. Be a good person, a righteous person someone who command respect and has earned it now through self promotion or any other nonsense. Put in the work learn your house secrets and keep them secret. Do not allow for these Palero posers fool you.  We need to create advocacy not mouth ranters on any form of communication. If people feel threatened by what i write i do not honestly care. If you feel that this is some way an attack on you. Then you are missing the point that if we do not create consciousness and eliminate the criminality in palo that came during the time of the Mariel when Castro emptied his prisons into these boats then you are missing the point. The point is that many people have sold themselves because they do not take our religion our practice and our belief system seriously. Hide in the shadows and live in your fantasy world a lot of us are done with that.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Between April and September 1980, 125,000 Cubans arrived in Florida from the port of El Mariel, in a dramatic boatlift that had long-standing repercussions for the United States and for Castro’s image. It all began when a bus crashed through the gates of the Peruvian Embassy in Havana. Two guards were wounded as they shot each other, and Fidel Castro, in a fit of anger, removed the security post from the embassy entrance. ‘Bad mistake,’ recalled the chief of the newly opened U.S. Interest Section in Havana, Wayne Smith, ‘because within hours there were 10,000 Cubans inside the embassy and thousands more on the way.’ Embarrassed, the Cuban government called the refugees escoria: ‘trash.’ Castro decided to open the port of El Mariel to &#8220;anyone&#8221; who wanted to leave Cuba.&#8221;<a href="http://www.palo-mayombe.com/2013/04/25/if-palo-was-the-basis-of-spiritual-enlightenment-and-healing-why-then-does-the-popular-belief-system-brings-forth-a-contrary-result/011_mariel/" rel="attachment wp-att-1014"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1014" alt="011_mariel" src="http://www.palo-mayombe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/011_mariel.jpg" width="300" height="202" /></a></strong></p>
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		<title>Where the material life ends and the spiritual journey to the land of the ancestors begin. What is deaths transition in a palero&#8217;s journey?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When we speak of the transitional phase of life what are we referring to when it comes to our passing? I get a lot of questions about reincarnation and life after death. Most of these dogmatic ideas of reincarnation are birthed from many different traditional roots. Most of the ideology of ancient Egypt was based [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">When we speak of the transitional phase of life what are we referring to when it comes to our passing? I get a lot of questions about reincarnation and life after death. Most of these dogmatic ideas of reincarnation are birthed from many different traditional roots. Most of the ideology of ancient Egypt was based on the idea that the body was prepared to take on the afterlife so they could reincarnate rebirth after death was the forefront of their belief system. Where you can see similarities in Buddha they were far different from each other. Every culture prepares the way for the ancestors to receive you. In Palo Mayombe we are closely and more typically have this mindset like the Sadducees an ancient Jewish sect which came into play during the 2nd temple timeline. According to Josephus the Hebrew Scholar of his time&#8230;</p>
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<li><strong>There is no fate</strong></li>
<li><strong>God does not commit evil</strong></li>
<li><strong>man has free will; “man has the free choice of good or evil”</strong></li>
<li><strong>the soul is not immortal; there is no afterlife, and</strong></li>
<li><strong>there are no rewards or penalties after death<br />
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<p>This comparison by far does not hold true in all Palo Mayombe houses, where there is a more christian influence differing by far. We as Mayomberos believe that the soul that harnass energy like the light of the sun and stars lives on as a sentient soul. Most Bakulu go to the land of the ancestors (casa Nsambi) which is the Sun(ntango) Bakulu are ancestral forces that we venerate and we try to reach that type of honor. The bakulu do not have an afterlife because they never truly die and so to re-incarnate an energy that is already living just in a different form makes no sense in our cosmology and lore.</p>
<p>Most Palo mayombe lines with the exception of some mayombe lines who venerate the ancestral force in a nganga deal with more of a nkita spirit. Most nkita spirits are not bad but have died tragically and do not make it to the realm of the ancestors. In doing this you find that nkita spirits are made to work looking for one day to be let free to go the land of the bakulu. Most minkisi that are pacted in this new era are made with Nkita spirits. Not all Minkisi are nkita because you have so many other ways of working medicine(Bilongo) that often times you can have minkisi built from certain plants, or animals, articles like horns or bags. Many minerals and items of power from riverbeds and white clay(mpemba) which was an element very important to the making of minkisi.</p>
<p>When it comes to Minkisi you have the nkondi which is a subclass of minkisi. Most nkondi spirits are aggressive can cause or cure sickness. Look for wrongdoers and enforce spiritual oaths in this process we see how Palo Mayombe incorporated the nkondi and the nkita to work in conjunction with ritual practice to work in Palo Mayombe nganga.  Most Briyumba lines practice in this way and has passed down to what Palo mayombe is today.</p>
<p>Mayombe as the birthplace of the 3 main ramas of palo mayombe has always understood that we as a community need to put forth concise teaching of all the lineages and bring back respect to an ever-growing population of misinformed people who are using Palo Mayombe to push their gangster rap careers, Commercializing violence and putting Palo mayombe in a bad light within our own supposed religious brethren. Gun posing and speaking on all criminal activities is not the mark of a cultural and religious person.Our ancestors were country people who believed in family first, than community and respect for the natural order of life in all its existence. The transition of a mayombero in life is to have a good death so that the earth takes in the body of a good man, woman, child, mother, father, sister,brother etc.  and that he leaves a mark on this earth for future generations to come to up hold that same doctrine. Leaving a mark in life assures that your death will not be a memory that will be long forgotten. <strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;The biggest spiritual death is to not be remembered in life</strong>&#8221;</p>
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		<title>So here goes ABC news and the Catholic spin doctors wiping their feet with Palo Mayombe</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When will people learn that any group who tries to give information about another without ever practicing a tradition is just fueling bias and discriminatory behavior. Seems that Catholic Online (www.catholic.org) who seems to be based right here in Los Angeles Ca went on a bit of an investigative rant on their site about a [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will people learn that any group who tries to give information about another without ever practicing a tradition is just fueling bias and discriminatory behavior. Seems that <strong>Catholic Online (<a href="http://www.catholic.org" target="_blank">www.catholic.org</a>)</strong> who seems to be based right here in Los Angeles Ca went on a bit of an investigative rant on their site about a New Jersey mausoleum which was broken into and the remains of Pauline Spinelli were taken.  Reported originally by ABC news in its entirety.</p>
<p><strong>http://abcnews.go.com/US/body-stolen-jersey-mausoleum/story?id=16895095#.UBoCV6BypgY</strong></p>
<p>ABC news calls a supposed expert on Destructive cults who has a shady past indeed Rick Ross<strong> </strong></p>
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<p><strong>Taken from excerpts of Wikipedia&#8230;&#8230; </strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;in 1974, Ross was convicted of the attempted burglary of a vacant model home and sentenced to probation</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>In 1993, Ross faced charges of unlawful imprisonment in the State of Washington due to the alleged forcible detention of Jason Scott, a member of a Pentecostal church, in 1991. Ross was acquitted in a January 1994 jury trial.</strong></p>
<p>S<strong>scott sued Ross, two of his associates, and the <a title="Cult Awareness Network" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network">Cult Awareness Network</a> (CAN), for his abduction and failed deprogramming. Scott was eighteen years old at the time of the abduction. CAN was a co-defendant because a CAN contact person had referred Scott&#8217;s mother to Ross.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The two men hired by Scott&#8217;s mother seized him outside her house. Scott was handcuffed but never struck. After he bit one of the men, they taped his mouth, and both the handcuffs and tape were removed after he was put in the van to go to the hotel where they held the deprogramming. The deprogramming personnel restrained him and told him his release depended on the completion of the deprogramming.<sup id="cite_ref-Haines_35-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-Haines-35">[36]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-Shupe180-184_39-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-Shupe180-184-39">[40]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-Cockburn_40-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-Cockburn-40">[41]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-Bromley_41-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-Bromley-41">[42]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-Appeal_42-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-Appeal-42">[43]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-ortega2_43-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-ortega2-43">[44]</a></sup></strong></p>
<p><strong>The defendants were found liable for conspiracy to deprive Scott of his <a title="Civil rights" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights">civil rights</a> and <a title="Freedom of religion" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion">religious liberties</a> and awarded $875,000 in <a title="Compensatory damages" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensatory_damages">compensatory damages</a>, and <a title="Punitive damages" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punitive_damages">punitive damages</a> in the amount of $1,000,000 against CAN, $2,500,000 against Ross, and $250,000 against each of the other two individual defendants. The case bankrupted the Cult Awareness Network.<sup id="cite_ref-44"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-44">[45]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-45"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-45">[46]</a></sup></strong></p>
<p><strong>In 1995 Ross filed for personal bankruptcy because of the damages award against him in the Scott civil trial.<sup id="cite_ref-Shupe180-184_39-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-Shupe180-184-39">[40]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-goodstein_46-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-goodstein-46">[47]</a></sup> Scott then settled with Ross, accepting $5,000 plus 200 hours of Ross&#8217;s professional services &#8220;as an expert consultant and intervention specialist&#8221;.<sup id="cite_ref-ortega2_43-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-ortega2-43">[44]</a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-goodstein_46-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-goodstein-46">[47]</a></sup> Berry, Scott&#8217;s new attorney, said that Scott&#8217;s decision to use Ross&#8217;s services was not a vindication of Ross&#8217;s deprogramming methods and refused to say what services Ross would provide.<sup id="cite_ref-ortega2_43-2"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-ortega2-43">[44]</a></sup></strong></p>
<p><strong>As a result of the legal risks involved, Ross stopped advocating coercive deprogramming or involuntary interventions for adults, preferring instead voluntary <a title="Exit counseling" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_counseling">exit counseling</a> without the use of force or restraint.<sup id="cite_ref-intervention_47-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Ross_%28consultant%29#cite_note-intervention-47">[48]</a></sup> He states that despite refinement of processes over the years, exit counseling and deprogramming continue to depend on the same principles</strong>.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Palo Mayombe seems to be the supposed cult experts playground. At any point the finger-pointing extravaganza that the media has on Satanists, Wiccans, Vodou and Palo Mayombe is very alarming and very real. We are sympathetic to the people whose remains were taken and it is said to say the least. When you purchase a plot or any relic or land to bury your loved ones and someone desecrate those grounds it is a travesty. <strong>But how does Palo Mayombe fit into this picture?</strong></p>
<p>How is that the granddaughter did the research and found Palo as a group who uses human bones?  If the catholic church and the Vatican venerate saints with human remains encrusted in gold and precious stones. We need to stop breeding this ignorance because Palo being a hybrid religion is just as hybrid as Catholicism being and offshoot of Jewish traditions.</p>
<p>To many atrocities have been cited by the catholic church, hatred,bigotry, racism and any schism that they have created in the past. We live in a land of freedom of expression and freedom of religion and Palo Mayombe is just another platform for these anti hate groups and media spin doctors to tarnish our religion. When are we going to fight against these injustices? Or are we simply going to live in the confines of secrecy and ignorance allowing people to define us yet we do not define ourselves?</p>
<p>Tata Musitu</p>
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		<title>My Interview with E.A.koetting</title>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nsala Malongo everyone,</p>
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<p>I have been busy with interviews and talking about Palo Mayombe with a few people online and I had the pleasure of being interviewed by Ea Koetting who is <strong>&#8220;an accomplished sorcerer, the head of an exclusive invite-only magical order, and I do professional coaching for magicians who are struggling with their personal power. I&#8217;ve also helped thousands of people through my internationally published books and programs.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>He is also a practitioner of the vodou tradition and here is his website for all those interested  http://www.becomealivinggod.com/.</p>
<p>Malembe Tata Musitu</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sala Malongo, Hoodoo as a diasporic Congo-rooted magical system is practical and simple in it&#8217;s implementation of natural forces for accomplishing change. The most indispensable of those natural things is, of course, Water. Understanding how our Congo ancestors understood and worked with Water and it&#8217;s Spirits will enable a deeper understanding of Why we work [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hoodoo as a diasporic Congo-rooted magical system is practical and simple in it&#8217;s implementation of natural forces for accomplishing change. The most indispensable of those natural things is, of course, Water. Understanding how our Congo ancestors understood and worked with Water and it&#8217;s Spirits will enable a deeper understanding of Why we work with water&#8211;as both Hoodoos and Paleros&#8211;in the way and fashion that we do. </p>
<p>The River, in the Congo, was more than just a liquid. It was a living manifestation of Spirit, a spiritual body, and it served as a transferative and transformative medium. When it was time for someone to be reborn into spirit, to die to the physical and return changed, this death was accomplished through immersion into the waters.<br />
To see how this approach to spiritual water in the Congo was born into the American South, and into Hoodoo, we need look no further than the Baptismal rites of the slave churches. Christianity didn&#8217;t dominate the Congo spiritual practices of the Slaves that were brought into the South&#8230;.instead, it was interpreted through extant Congo practices and worked in a manner that was consistent with the understanding of our ancestors. The rite of Baptism in a traditional Christian context involved a gentle blessing, with water poured over the head. At least, this is how it had degenerated by the time it reached the Congo. Old John the Baptist might have had a more classical approach to the rite&#8230;..<br />
The Congo took baptism and worked it the way they had always worked with Water; a person being reborn into Spirit needed to die, and in order to cross into the realm of the dead and be reborn&#8211;&#8221;born again&#8221;&#8211;the person had to be immersed fully into the Water. With ritual and ceremony, the person is placed deep into the Waters, where they enter the realm of the dead and rise up newly born into the world. Having died and then risen up, the person is more than a simple human; the contacts made with the world of spirit during the immersion remain. This is why in traditional Black churches in the South, Baptism is given in the river, and one is fully immersed. Through immersion in Water contact with spirit is made&#8230;.through the agency of Water spiritual forces are brought to bear. </p>
<p>Spiritual Baths, washes, and Waters are arguably the most important tool in the conjurer&#8217;s arsenal. A hoodoo who doesn&#8217;t work with baths and washes is hardly a hoodoo at all. They are the simplest and also most effective methods we use. The water of a spiritual baths serves as a mercurial medium, a transferative medium between the power of the herbs and stones and bones within the water and the person using the bath. Our cleansing wash&#8211;say, made with hyssop, some blueing, mint, etc&#8211;will take within the waters themselves the power of the items within, so that the cleansing power of hyssop and the lot imbue the water. When using the wash that virtue is transferred through agency of the water to the conjurer or client using it, and a deep spiritual cleansing can occur. We can make waters that do near anything with this method, if we know the power and spirit of the natural things around us. A war-water can be made with a bit of graveyard dirt, wasp nests (especially one with larvae present), stinging nettle, rose or cactus thorn, and warring, violent song or prayer. I place within my war-water bullets and fula, and further refine it with methods shared with my apprentices and co-workers. This kind of water, when sprayed upon a doorway or area, or God Forbid drunk, will create  havoc and discord. The Water itself is cleansing when paired with cleansing things, and violent with violent things. This is the power of water, and the essence of it&#8217;s use within Hoodoo.<br />
As a Palero, the rites of our religion reaffirm the nature of this understanding of Waters, birthed in the Congo and alive in all of it&#8217;s spiritual children. Look to our baths, and I find the same principles at work. In our Chamba, the same principles&#8230;.even in our creation of nkisi. Oftentimes the most obvious difference between a simple makuto and an nkisi, as far as constuction goes, is the nature of the ntoto used. When building our nkisi, the dirts are wet and alive with lustral waters. The  dirts packed into a makuto are often dry, as they often serve as a tool to direct the power of a given nkisi in a certain way and have no agency on their own. There are many mysteries in water and it&#8217;s work, and in Hoodoo we have the silent wisdom of our Congo ancestors enabling our work. Palo Mayombe is blessed in the same way. </p>
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		<title>Why Moors are not Paleros yet people are claiming that Mayombe comes from moorish beliefs.</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricColon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nsala Malongo everyone, I have been trying to get back into the swing of writing more informative literature on our website. I have been busy with a lot of ceremonial obligations. I will be checking in from time to time so that I can get out more educational information as our religion is getting a [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nsala Malongo everyone,</p>
<p>I have been trying to get back into the swing of writing more informative literature on our website. I have been busy with a lot of ceremonial obligations. I will be checking in from time to time so that I can get out more educational information as our religion is getting a resurgence of people seeking answers. One of these nuances in Palo Mayombe now is the supposed Moor Sciences in Palo. For as many times that I will say it there is no such thing as moors who practice palo mayombe. First off the The Moorish Science Temple of America was incorporated under the Illinois Religious Corporation Act 805 ILCS 110. Timothy Drew, calling himself the <a title="Prophet" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet">Prophet</a> Noble Drew Ali, founded the Moorish Science Temple in 1913 in <a title="New Jersey" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey">New Jersey</a>. That later became an offshoot of what was to become the Nation of Islam. None worked nkisi they may have studied about it in archeological books but known were priests no.</p>
<p><strong>The true moors who were based in spain and north africa had a different story to tell (excerpt was borrowed from infoplease.com on moors All rights reserved to the website)</strong></p>
<h1>Moors</h1>
<p>Moors, nomadic people of the northern shores of Africa, originally the inhabitants of Mauretania. They were chiefly of Berber and Arab stock. In the 8th cent. the Moors were converted to Islam and became fanatic Muslims. They spread SW into Africa (see <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0832289.html">Mauritania</a>) and NW into Spain. Under <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0847866.html">Tarik ibn Ziyad</a> they crossed to Gibraltar in 711 and easily overran the crumbling Visigothic kingdom of <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0842204.html">Roderick</a>. They spread beyond the Pyrenees into France, where they were turned back at Tours by <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0811480.html">Charles Martel</a> (732). In 756, <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0802087.html">Abd ar-Rahman I</a> established the Umayyad dynasty at Córdoba. This emirate became under Abd ar-Rahman III the caliphate of Córdoba. The court there grew in wealth, splendor, and culture. The regent al-<a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0831614.html">Mansur</a> in the late 10th cent. waged bitter warfare with the Christians of N Spain, where, from the beginning, the Moorish conquest had met with its only opposition. The cities of the south, Toledo, Córdoba, and Seville, speedily became centers of the new culture and were famed for their universities and architectural treasures (see <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/ent/A0833941.html">Moorish art and architecture</a>). With the exception of brief periods, there was, however, no strong central government; the power was split up among dissenting local leaders and factions. The caliphate fell in 1031, and the <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0803449.html">Almoravids</a> in 1086 took over Moorish Spain, which was throughout the whole period closely connected in rule with Morocco. Almoravid control slowly declined and by 1174 was supplanted by the <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0803445.html">Almohads</a>. These successive waves of invasion had brought into Spain thousands of skilled Moorish artisans and industrious farmers who contributed largely to the intermittent prosperity of the country. They were killed or expelled in large numbers (to the great loss of Spain) in the Christian reconquest, which began with the recovery of Toledo (1085) by <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0803295.html">Alfonso VI</a>, king of León and Castile. The great Christian victory (1212) of Navas de Tolosa prepared the way for the downfall of the Muslims. Córdoba fell to <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0818475.html">Ferdinand III</a> of Castile in 1236. The wars went on, and one by one the Moorish strongholds fell, until only Granada remained in their hands. Málaga was taken (1487) after a long siege by the forces of Ferdinand and Isabella, and in 1492 Granada was recovered. Many of the Moors remained in Spain; those who remained faithful to Islam were called Mudejares, while those who accepted Christianity were called <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0834047.html">Moriscos</a>. They were allowed to stay in Spain but were kept under close surveillance. They were persecuted by Philip II, revolted in 1568, and in the Inquisition were virtually exterminated. In 1609 the remaining Moriscos were expelled. Thus the glory of the Moorish civilization in Spain was gradually extinguished. Its contributions to Western Europe and especially to Spain were almost incalculable—in art and architecture, medicine and science, and learning (especially ancient Greek learning). <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0833942.html#ixzz20122nbwP">Moors — Infoplease.com</a> <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0833942.html#ixzz20122nbwP">http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0833942.html#ixzz20122nbwP</a></p>
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<p><strong>With this being said from reliable sources Islam does not allow anyone of their followers to take on another faith. Self proclaimed moors worship Allah. Here is an excerpt on the purity of faith and it goes(borrowed from the website http://convertingtoislam.com All Rights Reserved)</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: maroon; font-family: verdana; font-size: medium;"><span style="color: maroon; font-family: verdana; font-size: medium;"><strong><em>                                         </em></strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: maroon; font-family: verdana; font-size: medium;"><span style="color: maroon; font-family: verdana; font-size: medium;"><strong><em>                                          Al-Ikhlas</em></strong><br />
</span></span></p>
<div align="center"><center><span style="color: #336600; font-family: verdana; font-size: large;"><span style="color: #336600; font-family: verdana; font-size: large;"><span style="color: #336600; font-family: verdana; font-size: large;"><strong> The declaration of<br />
Oneness of God</strong></span></span></span><span style="color: black; font-family: verdana; font-size: xx-small;"> (The Purity of Faith)<br />
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<li>Say: He is Allah, the One and Only.</li>
<li>Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.</li>
<li>He begets not, nor is He begotten.</li>
<li>And there is none comparable<br />
unto Him.</li>
</ol>
<p>Malongo has its roots in alchemy but we were based and rooted in tradition and lore at least 1000 years before their was a mention of Jesus Christ in Christianity. 2000 years before the arabs came into existence and helped enslave the Bantu people with the help of the Portuguese and the Spanish. How would someone in this day and age even conceive the notion that Mayombe is rooted in such practices which included acts of barbarism and atrocities to the memory of those who were enslaved. It shows me the lack of disregard and education a lot of these psuedo archeologists who are coming around and trying to piece a puzzle that has no fitting parts. <strong>&#8220;Except for the plunder of natural resources to the land, contributing to the slaughter of millions lost at sea. Also a total act of erasing and brainwashing to assimilate them into a culture that never belonged to them and was not a part of their written and oral identity.</strong> &#8221;</p>
<p>Mayombe has no connection to moor science, laws, doctrines or any other form of Palo Mayombe. When Christopher Columbus set on his voyage which many historians attest to his hebrew lettering in his journals, How convenient that the moors were being taken out of present day spain and went on his voyages to avoid persecution or jail but went on a rape and pillage spree in the Americas and the land which was founded by natives.</p>
<p>Excerpt from The Scourge of Muslim Slavery (All Rights Reserved http://truthandgrace.com)</p>
<p align="justify"><strong>The Muslim slave trade took place across the Sahara Desert, from the coast of the Red Sea, and from East Africa across the Indian Ocean. The Trans-sahara trade was conducted along six major slave routes. Just in the 19th Century, for which we have more accurate records, 1.2 million slaves were brought across the Sahara into the Middle East, 450,000 down the Red Sea and 442,000 from East African coastal ports. That is a total of 2 million black slaves &#8211; just in the 1800&#8242;s. At least 8 million more were calculated to have died before reaching the Muslim slave markets.</strong></p>
<p align="justify"><strong> </strong></p>
<p align="justify"><strong>Islam&#8217;s Black Slaves records:  &#8220;In the 1570&#8242;s, a Frenchman visiting Egypt found many thousands of blacks on sale in Cairo on market days. In 1665 Father Antonios Gonzalis, a Spanish/Belgian traveler, reported 800 &#8211; 1,000 slaves on sale in the Cairo market on a single day. In 1796, a British traveler reported a caravan of 5,000 slaves departing from Darfur. In 1838, it was estimated that 10,000 to 12,000 slaves were arriving in Cairo each year.&#8221; Just in the Arabic plantations off the East Coast of Africa, on the islands of Zanzibar and Pemba, there were 769,000 black slaves.</strong></p>
<p align="justify"><strong>&#8220;The death toll from 14 centuries of the Muslim slave trade in Africa is estimated at over 112 million.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p align="justify">Next time you want to know about Palo Mayombe and Bantu teachings please do not sell into this fallacy that mayombe is part of a moor science. It is actually disrespectful to both cultures.  Nsambia to all.</p>
<p align="justify">                                                                                           Tata Musitu</p>
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		<title>Penance vs Rite distinguishing the two. What is abuse versus ceremony?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The meaning of Penance in the catholic encyclopedia. &#8220;Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest&#8217;s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same. It is called a &#8220;sacrament&#8221; not [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The meaning of Penance in the catholic encyclopedia.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest&#8217;s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same. It is called a &#8220;sacrament&#8221; not simply a function or ceremony, because it is an outward sign instituted by Christ to impart grace to the soul.&#8221;</strong></p>
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<p><strong>as written in Wikipedia.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>&#8220;A sacrament is a sacred rite recognized as of particular importance and significance. There are various views on the existence and meaning of such rites.&#8221;</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Nsala Malongo Everyone,</strong></p>
<p><strong>I remember when the idea of cutting people to me into the religion was more of a lets see who can tolerate the most. Who held up longer, who got hit more, who dealt with what at the moment. Understanding ritual complexities in every rama, one thing was for certain that everyone passes through penance. But to me this idea of penance is non-existent, since a rite of passage versus penance have nothing in common. A lot of times I would here when you are in (penitencia) spanish word for penance this is so you can contemplate your sins. I always asked myself what sin? If what is a rite of passage is a time for celebration and not fear. A time to understand that these steps as we go forward are to bridge our connection with one and the universe. A time to give praise to those ancestral spirits and all spirits within the depths of Palo Mayombe. So my view and understanding of Penance reworded with Rite.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>It is a material rite to move forward in this world to bound that tie that knot with the spiritual and so changing the wording does not change the framework of what we do as priests or priestess alike. We bring a more focused initiate through the door more willing and hungry to understand what we hold as a rite of passage. Now rites of passage involve the agitation of spirit, But a full abusive beat down in my view is not a spiritual act but more so an act of abuse. Our rite as priests and or priestess is to offer a rite of passage. But some people take it to super extremes. But as in every house as a guest if one is not in agreement. One can be pro active and speak up and not allow it. Or we can do as the roman&#8217;s do but i don&#8217;t apply to that train of thought. So I would personally excuse myself from the ceremony as to not cause a raucous.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Understanding ritual rites is one measure of becoming spiritually whole. When all is said and done we must look to our ritual practices and understand the meaning behind the ritual scars and the ritual movements behind the hits. But we are not uncivilized savages who for the mere entertainment of others we are beating people half to death. People must stand for something or follow like sheep to the slaughter. Open your eyes and watch out for people who are beating and torturing people half to death. It&#8217;s a time for ritual and celebration and not a trip to the emergency room.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tata Musitu&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>What is unbecoming of a practitioner of Palo Mayombe</title>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a site is for the preservation of our principle rights as paleros the reason being that all ramas and all true munaso&#8217;s practice under a banner. Respect, loyalty, honor among many things a heart of acceptance and obedience. To one&#8217;s family,friends comrades and other practitioners of different kongo faiths. When we speak of other people and trying to denigrate your reputation and make you look like you are a shady practitioner it only fuels a person like me for instance to persevere.</p>
<p>Mayombe teaches us to have honor and loyalty and above all respect the ritual rites in your home and in the home of others. We as practitioners of Palo mayombe can only truly handle the conflicts within our own munanso and can not involve ourselves with the problems of every house that faces issues. Such as bigotry, hatred, instilling fear, defamation of character. Such is that it seems unfortunately the root of these tyrannical ideologies are based in ignorance. Fear is a liar and one must not fear these hate mongers that are out their with Contemptous lies and bantering of people who have proven time and time again with good works and respect and humbleness you can go far.Interesting fact that I found on the word Gossip from wikipedia and it states:</p>
<p><strong>The word is from <a title="Old English" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English">Old English</a> <em>godsibb</em>, from <em><a title="God (word)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_%28word%29">god</a></em> and <em><a title="Sibb" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibb">sibb</a></em>, the term for the <a title="Godparents" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godparents">godparents</a> of one&#8217;s child or the parents of one&#8217;s godchild, generally very close friends. In the 16th century, the word assumed the meaning of a person, mostly a woman, one who delights in idle talk, a newsmonger, a tattler.<sup id="cite_ref-3"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip#cite_note-3">[4]</a></sup> In the early 19th century, the term was extended from the talker to the conversation of such persons. The verb <em>to gossip</em>, meaning &#8220;to be a gossip&#8221;, first appears in <a title="Shakespeare" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare">Shakespeare</a>.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The term originates from the bedroom at the time of childbirth. Giving birth used to be a social (ladies only) event, in which a pregnant woman&#8217;s female relatives and neighbours would gather. As with any social gathering there was chattering and this is where the term gossip came to mean talk of others.</strong></p>
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<p>You can see where the term cackling hens come into play that is not a sign of a true palero. That is a sign of a person threatened that this movement of Palo Mayombe is moving forward and we are bringing back the old and killing the new innovations of Palo Mayombe that has plagued this religion for far too long. Out there in the world people are reading this site and taking notice to what we are bringing to the table. Truth and knowledge and humbleness and respect. I know for a fact that many people out there have spoken about my person I for one will not entertain them because it goes to show you they fear you when they have to speak about you and these people know nothing of you. You can meet a person and deem them a friend but most likely they are an aquaintance that is not worthy of the term friend.&nbsp; Always lead by example and good works and you will flourish but if you lead by the constant banter and propaganda that fuels petty flame wars then you who go around pointing fingers at people, What are you? But a sniveling liar and will fall on your face by your own intentions and actions.&nbsp; My name is Tata Musitu Munanfinda moana filo batalla muna mayombe Saca empeno. It is a title that i wear with honor that i wear with my head up high and I will always keep true to my Munaso, my friends, my family. my wife and those that truly know me and to those who feel the need to talk about my person its ok it is hard to follow in the shadow of someone who is bringing light from the darkness.</p>
<p>I Laugh at the thought that these are the same people who claim to be good and upstanding people yet the walk around with the same disdain a rattlesnake has for the sun. Mayombe is a healing society we are not hating on anyone, we are not into gay bashing, we respect all and as such we expect the same in return.</p>
<p>So take my message for what it is worth&#8230;. (amunancuame batalla kongo ndile ndundu mayombe kisa kwambila).</p>
<p>Tata Musitu.&nbsp; Pull out your dictionary and look it up.</p>
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		<title>What does it mean for Palo Mayombe to be Secret and Sacred??</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In many traditional and alchemical practices we have the vow of secrecy and sacredness. The reason being behind all the secrecy is due to outside influences coming in and not only critiquing what is done in the vow of secrecy but also the fact that sacredness is lost. &#8220;Yes the words for Secret and Sacred [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In many traditional and alchemical practices we have the vow of secrecy and sacredness. The reason being behind all the secrecy is due to outside influences coming in and not only critiquing what is done in the vow of secrecy but also the fact that sacredness is lost. <strong>&#8220;Yes the words for Secret and Sacred go hand in hand.</strong> &#8220;  Many munanso out there in different parts of the country are losing that value of what is secret and what is sacred. In the times of <strong>Chino Arrieta(Nunga Nunga) and Juan Cabanga(Yerekun Yekun)</strong> one of the many founders of the lineage that is Mayombe did not allow people to come from other branches of palo that were not mayombe to work or partake in ritual ceremony. Even if they knew our secrets and what we were all about or if they were close friends or even relatives. Oh and to top it off their were only certain phrases that were spoken in the house that was not allowed to be shared with other people. So for the only way for you to be allowed in the room you had to know these spoken phrases. It was secret among the Munanso of Mayombe.</p>
<p>Sacred to those of the lineage to be passed down to the family of mayombe and sworn as sacred. Merriam Webster free dictionary online defines this as:</p>
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<div><strong><em>a</em> : dedicated or set apart for the service or worship of a deity &lt;a tree <em>sacred</em> to the gods&gt; <em>b</em> : devoted exclusively to one service or use (as of a person or purpose) &lt;a fund <em>sacred</em> to charity&gt;</strong></div>
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<div><strong><em>a</em> : worthy of religious veneration : <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/holy">holy</a> <em>b</em> : entitled to reverence and respect</strong></div>
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<div><strong>: of or relating to religion : not secular or profane &lt;<em>sacred</em> music&gt;</strong></div>
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<div><strong><em>archaic</em> : <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accursed">accursed</a></strong></div>
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<p><strong><em>a</em> : <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unassailable">unassailable</a>, <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inviolable">inviolable</a> <em>b</em> : highly valued.</strong></p>
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<p>So my question to those who are out their inviting other people who are not of the same lineage or rama to come work in their Munanso how is that respecting your lineage? See because every house of worship of palo mayombe is not the same.</p>
<p>Mayombe is mayombe, Briyumba is briyumba, Kimbisa is kimbisa, So then when you officiate in a house of briyumba and mayomberos are their how are you respecting not only cultural lines but religious lines as well? This is vice a versa also because a mayombe house is a house of secrets of mayombe. A Kimbisa house is solely the secrets of kimbisa.<strong> &#8220;How can either one officiate in another munanso when a mayombero should not know what goes on in a room of kimbisa and a briyumbero should not be knowing what goes on in a munanso of  Musundi.?&#8221; </strong></p>
<p>The problem is that if you have an established house of Palo Mayombe whatever line it is then those are the people who are officiating and know other people should be even holding a candle in that room. Out of respect of 2 major words in this posting, Secret and Sacred.</p>
<p>You got alot of people out their thinking because they are in the branch they have a right to be in a room well that is so not true. You look at the seriousness of what is initiation and who in your house is representing you this task is left to the brothers and sisters of your munanso. Not &#8220;invited guests&#8221; who know nothing of your secret pacts and ceremonies and only can bring a big confusion to the person when they draw the patimpemba that does not correspond to the munanso like a mayombe firma next to a kimbisa one. It&#8217;s like a total disrespect to the pact of those spirits and their lines which they came from. Let alone all the spiritual ramifications that come because your house of Palo Mayombe is your family and so family handles family not strangers handling family. Catholics can not dictate in a Jewish synagogue yet they believe in Abraham and the prophets, But they are different. So what is this new reformation of allowing people in Munanso who are not part of the lineage or house in which the ceremonial rites and secrets are being performed?</p>
<p>I believe that the Munanso who are allowing this are not established with people in their own space and are seeking to validate an ideology that has never existed until recently. Which actually makes for a lot of ceremony conducted by 2 or 3 different people in different munanso as null and void. Then they have to go and get scratched as a method to undo what has been done on them. Unfortunately those are the horror&#8217;s that are religion must start finding remedy to before this whole new ideology takes form and kills our secrets and sacred rites. What is more alarming that allowing for that type of behavior allows for public scrutiny on techniques and ways of practice that are varied from house to house. Lets respect the memories of our elders and start cleaning up our act.  Tata Musitu</p>
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