Why Moors are not Paleros yet people are claiming that Mayombe comes from moorish beliefs.

Nsala Malongo everyone,

I have been trying to get back into the swing of writing more informative literature on our website. I have been busy with a lot of ceremonial obligations. I will be checking in from time to time so that I can get out more educational information as our religion is getting a resurgence of people seeking answers. One of these nuances in Palo Mayombe now is the supposed Moor Sciences in Palo. For as many times that I will say it there is no such thing as moors who practice palo mayombe. First off the The Moorish Science Temple of America was incorporated under the Illinois Religious Corporation Act 805 ILCS 110. Timothy Drew, calling himself the Prophet Noble Drew Ali, founded the Moorish Science Temple in 1913 in New Jersey. That later became an offshoot of what was to become the Nation of Islam. None worked nkisi they may have studied about it in archeological books but known were priests no.

The true moors who were based in spain and north africa had a different story to tell (excerpt was borrowed from infoplease.com on moors All rights reserved to the website)


Moors, nomadic people of the northern shores of Africa, originally the inhabitants of Mauretania. They were chiefly of Berber and Arab stock. In the 8th cent. the Moors were converted to Islam and became fanatic Muslims. They spread SW into Africa (see Mauritania) and NW into Spain. Under Tarik ibn Ziyad they crossed to Gibraltar in 711 and easily overran the crumbling Visigothic kingdom of Roderick. They spread beyond the Pyrenees into France, where they were turned back at Tours by Charles Martel (732). In 756, Abd ar-Rahman I established the Umayyad dynasty at Córdoba. This emirate became under Abd ar-Rahman III the caliphate of Córdoba. The court there grew in wealth, splendor, and culture. The regent al-Mansur in the late 10th cent. waged bitter warfare with the Christians of N Spain, where, from the beginning, the Moorish conquest had met with its only opposition. The cities of the south, Toledo, Córdoba, and Seville, speedily became centers of the new culture and were famed for their universities and architectural treasures (see Moorish art and architecture). With the exception of brief periods, there was, however, no strong central government; the power was split up among dissenting local leaders and factions. The caliphate fell in 1031, and the Almoravids in 1086 took over Moorish Spain, which was throughout the whole period closely connected in rule with Morocco. Almoravid control slowly declined and by 1174 was supplanted by the Almohads. These successive waves of invasion had brought into Spain thousands of skilled Moorish artisans and industrious farmers who contributed largely to the intermittent prosperity of the country. They were killed or expelled in large numbers (to the great loss of Spain) in the Christian reconquest, which began with the recovery of Toledo (1085) by Alfonso VI, king of León and Castile. The great Christian victory (1212) of Navas de Tolosa prepared the way for the downfall of the Muslims. Córdoba fell to Ferdinand III of Castile in 1236. The wars went on, and one by one the Moorish strongholds fell, until only Granada remained in their hands. Málaga was taken (1487) after a long siege by the forces of Ferdinand and Isabella, and in 1492 Granada was recovered. Many of the Moors remained in Spain; those who remained faithful to Islam were called Mudejares, while those who accepted Christianity were called Moriscos. They were allowed to stay in Spain but were kept under close surveillance. They were persecuted by Philip II, revolted in 1568, and in the Inquisition were virtually exterminated. In 1609 the remaining Moriscos were expelled. Thus the glory of the Moorish civilization in Spain was gradually extinguished. Its contributions to Western Europe and especially to Spain were almost incalculable—in art and architecture, medicine and science, and learning (especially ancient Greek learning). Moors — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0833942.html#ixzz20122nbwP


With this being said from reliable sources Islam does not allow anyone of their followers to take on another faith. Self proclaimed moors worship Allah. Here is an excerpt on the purity of faith and it goes(borrowed from the website http://convertingtoislam.com All Rights Reserved)



The declaration of
Oneness of God
(The Purity of Faith)

  1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only.
  2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
  3. He begets not, nor is He begotten.
  4. And there is none comparable
    unto Him.

Malongo has its roots in alchemy but we were based and rooted in tradition and lore at least 1000 years before their was a mention of Jesus Christ in Christianity. 2000 years before the arabs came into existence and helped enslave the Bantu people with the help of the Portuguese and the Spanish. How would someone in this day and age even conceive the notion that Mayombe is rooted in such practices which included acts of barbarism and atrocities to the memory of those who were enslaved. It shows me the lack of disregard and education a lot of these psuedo archeologists who are coming around and trying to piece a puzzle that has no fitting parts. “Except for the plunder of natural resources to the land, contributing to the slaughter of millions lost at sea. Also a total act of erasing and brainwashing to assimilate them into a culture that never belonged to them and was not a part of their written and oral identity.

Mayombe has no connection to moor science, laws, doctrines or any other form of Palo Mayombe. When Christopher Columbus set on his voyage which many historians attest to his hebrew lettering in his journals, How convenient that the moors were being taken out of present day spain and went on his voyages to avoid persecution or jail but went on a rape and pillage spree in the Americas and the land which was founded by natives.

Excerpt from The Scourge of Muslim Slavery (All Rights Reserved http://truthandgrace.com)

The Muslim slave trade took place across the Sahara Desert, from the coast of the Red Sea, and from East Africa across the Indian Ocean. The Trans-sahara trade was conducted along six major slave routes. Just in the 19th Century, for which we have more accurate records, 1.2 million slaves were brought across the Sahara into the Middle East, 450,000 down the Red Sea and 442,000 from East African coastal ports. That is a total of 2 million black slaves – just in the 1800’s. At least 8 million more were calculated to have died before reaching the Muslim slave markets.


Islam’s Black Slaves records:  “In the 1570’s, a Frenchman visiting Egypt found many thousands of blacks on sale in Cairo on market days. In 1665 Father Antonios Gonzalis, a Spanish/Belgian traveler, reported 800 – 1,000 slaves on sale in the Cairo market on a single day. In 1796, a British traveler reported a caravan of 5,000 slaves departing from Darfur. In 1838, it was estimated that 10,000 to 12,000 slaves were arriving in Cairo each year.” Just in the Arabic plantations off the East Coast of Africa, on the islands of Zanzibar and Pemba, there were 769,000 black slaves.

“The death toll from 14 centuries of the Muslim slave trade in Africa is estimated at over 112 million.”

Next time you want to know about Palo Mayombe and Bantu teachings please do not sell into this fallacy that mayombe is part of a moor science. It is actually disrespectful to both cultures.  Nsambia to all.

                                                                                           Tata Musitu






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3 Responses to “Why Moors are not Paleros yet people are claiming that Mayombe comes from moorish beliefs.”

  1. mwanakongo says:

    Tata Colon,

    I stumbled upon your site today (happy accident) and was very intrigued with the content. I am not a palero, but I subscribe to a different Kongo belief system. I’ve read your post regarding the moors, and I wanted to kindly offer input, as I noticed a few glaring misconceptions in the post.

    “Moors, nomadic people of the northern shores of Africa, originally the inhabitants of Mauritania. They were chiefly of Berber and Arab stock. In the 8th cent. the Moors were converted to Islam and became fanatic Muslims.”

    I was somewhat shocked to read the above text on this site. It shows the continued strength and power of the propaganda war waged by the Christian regime during the genocide that was the Spanish Inquisition.

    Like Paleros, Moors have suffered a powerful smearing campaign over the years; (perhaps) unlike Paleros, the campaign against the Moors is deeply rooted in racism and corruption.

    1) The Moors were not “fanatic muslims”- particularly the first wave of Moors (there were two, the second being just before the end of their reign in Europe). In fact, they lived peaceably in Europe amongst Christians, Jews, and so on. These societies were multi-lingual and simultaneously “uni-cultural”. Emphasis was placed on the arts, sciences, medicine, mathematics, and especially literacy, education, and poetry. In fact, the “Renaissance” of Europe was born within this Moor society, and spread throughout Europe as more and more Europeans traveled to the Moorish territories for contact with the “land of the Moors”.

    The Moors never forced the Europeans to “submit” to Islam. The Europeans were allowed to exist as they did, and power was handed over willingly by the Visigoths who were already having difficulty sustaining their powerhold in the region. The Europeans converted willingly to Islam, as they saw it as a religion that could empower them. Why? Because amongst the Moors, literacy was not for the select few. Education was for everyone and was encouraged by the Moors. At this point, the Europeans were destitute and uneducated, and Islam was seen by them as their path to power. So there was no need to force them to convert to Islam like “fanatic Muslims”.

    2) “They were chiefly of Berber and Arab stock.”

    Luckily for history, the language of Europe and the memory of the people involved betrays these racist assertions.

    The Language:
    “Mohr” in Germany is a word that is used by the elder generations that specifically means “a Black person”. Germans do not use this same word to refer to arabs, or any other group. The word is only used to refer to Blacks. Arabs are called “Araber”. The word “mohr” in Germany can also be considered derogatory these days, though I’m unsure why. But this is the case, according to my German informant. The word is considered to be a word used by the elder generations, so it is not a recent adaptation.

    In French, Portuguese and other latin-based languages, “moreno/morena” is frequently used to refer to a Black person, or someone who appears to have African ancestry. I know for a fact that in France and in Spain, the name as a surname refers to someone who has Black ancestry, traced back to the Moorish period. The name appears in France as “Maureau” (pronounced “more-eau”) and in many other forms.

    The Moors made their way as far as where I live today (I live in a region in which the Moor imprint still thrives today). Amongst the people, when they point to their “Moor ancestry” (which they do secretly, strangely enough…I believe they feel some sort of kinship with me because I’m Black), they consistently point to African (ie, not Arab, etc) ancestry and features. I’ve even had an elderly woman who shared a hospital room here with me tell me about how these “Black features” still pop up in her family’s blood line today.

    In the renaissance art of Europe, the term “moor” was used almost exclusively to point to an African muslim (ie, not arab).

    I’ve written too much here, I suppose. But I was shocked to see that sort of hypocritical Christian propaganda (devised during the Spanish Inquisition) on this site, I suppose.

    Before going, it is important to know that these Moors saw the Middle East as their seat of power and federation. I’ve lost a bit of my energy typing this; but there’s an interesting documentary on the topic. It is by the BBC (a racist media outlet), but much of the information in the documentary is useful in shutting down at least some of these myths.

    • Nsala Malongo,

      I really appreciate your feedback as such you will see that in the article the references I used from the online sites was what the search engine gave me. I totally agree with you when it comes to institutional ideology and propaganda within the confounds of christian beliefs.The article’s intent is to show that even when you get down to it The moor identity is an arabic identity and not an african one. We need better outlets to further enrich the idea that many ethnic groups help to shape the idea of palo but no one group can lay claim where it originated. Only where the foundation was built which is africa and not in the Land of the moors. Thank you again for your feedback and I will see about making sure I got info from a more well rounded source. Malembe Tata Eric

  2. Tukuenda says:


    I appreciate your input here and totally agree with you, as you are presenting the facts which are not so difficult to find today as long as you look at legitimate sources. One source I would like to share concerning the Moors is a book edited by the late and great Ivan Van Sertima called “Golden Age of the Moor”. In it 14 different scholars offer their wisdom and research concerning the Moors.

    Another excellent source for understanding the story of our Caribbean is a book by the Caribbean scholar Jan Carew called “Rape of Paradise: Columbus and the Birth of Racism in the Americas”. He speaks about the Moors in this book as well.

    Then of course you have scholars such as Dr. Ben, the late John Henrik Clarke, Diop, John Jackson, Runoko Rashidi and the list is long and these African scholars offer us some of the best information about the true history of Africa, Europe, Asia and the Americas.

    It is vital to us as Paleros that we have our facts straight and are getting our information from Our- Storians and not exclusively from His-storians, and that we are not just cutting and pasting from racist and colonialist sources and thereby adding ignorance rather than enlightenment.

    If it is our “purpose” to elevate the vibration and energy of Palo Mayombe, then we cannot do this by riding on the backs of ignorance, but need to first elevate our own vibration, educate ourselves in “Our Story” and raise our focus from territorial disputes to higher learning and practicing. We need to avoid a “purist” approach that seeks to diminish other traditions, cultures and people (including our sister and brother traditions) because this “purism” is rooted in european racism, white supremacy, and white interpretation of religion. Our Story is not “black and white” and trying to portray Palo as “black and white” is a big mistake.

    My two cents…

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